Affiliates Who Throw Rocks
shoemoney
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4 min read
I am always amazed at people who are quick to call out a niche as being a scam. For the longest time commercial ringtones was a huge target. And rightfully so. Just in the short time I was promoting ringtone offers there was an enormous amount of changes, lawsuits, and tons of compliance issues.
I was attacked a lot for promoting such offers but at the same time praised by others for actually giving step by step instructions on who to make money with affiliate marketing. While ringtones are nothing close to our companys overall percentage of income I still today do 20-50 leads a day organically through our old mobile properties. I run them all through Affiliate.com's ringtones.net program. (which is still paying out and amazing $20 per lead btw..).
Lately ive been criticized by some people saying that ringtones.net is unethical. Now these are the same people promoting the US Grant and Acai Berry weight loss stuff.
As you know most of these grant and weight loss products work off a negative option billing system.. they charge you only $2 or so for shipping and handling (thats clearly labeled on the site) then somewhere in the terms of service they bury the real costs which is a monster monthly fee.
Like I have said many times... I am not judging anyone. The government will do that. They did it in ringtones to regulate the industry and keep deception out. I was investigated several times and also deposed in 2 separate cases. I always came out 100% clean following the rules set down by the companies in the FTC. Affiliates who were not compliant got busted. many affiliate companies had to pay millions of dollars. And even some affiliates got nailed to the tune of millions of dollars.
I have no doubt this will also happen in the Grant/Weightloss/Google make money products (that are not really google) industries as well.
When enough people complain that they were ripped off to their attorney generals they will investigate and they will make examples out of people.
Its actually already started. Earlier this week I was contacted by a lawyer representing the Geico cavemen who will be seeking damages for people running ads of them on Facebook to grant ads. He read about my case with the google money tree and wanted to know the proccess we went through to find the guilty party(s).
But here is the thing... it seems every person I have come across who judges peoples ethics and legalities generally 1) has no clue what they are talking about and 2) is often times doing as shady if not shadier stuff then the person they are judging.
Let me give you an example from just this week. I was contacted by a twitter user named ivetriedthat from ivetriedthat.com:
@IveTriedThat (IveTriedThat) says:
@shoemoney I hope you aren't pushing grant ads. Those companies that sell that garbage are pure evil.
@IveTriedThat (IveTriedThat) says:
@shoemoney we covered it here http://snipr.com/bf6mb 1. the gov't doesnt give out free money 2. they have tons of hidden fees.
So clearly this person has judged those who are making money with Grant ads. He has even devoted a whole post to it here.
Intersting enough seems the person here (like many) throwing a rock actually lives in a glass house.
1) He making money from Google Adsense targeted at Grant Offers... the very offers he is bashing. But ohh those grant clicks pay so good!
2) See the green 125x125 cash crate ad? Lol this person is also is making cash off one of those incentivized programs where you complete offers for cash. These offers are lead generation things (like surveys) which collect your information in order to spam you with... grant offers...
So seriously... can we stop throwing rocks?
@IveTriedThat (IveTriedThat) says:
@shoemoney I hope you aren't pushing grant ads. Those companies that sell that garbage are pure evil.
@IveTriedThat (IveTriedThat) says:
@shoemoney we covered it here http://snipr.com/bf6mb 1. the gov't doesnt give out free money 2. they have tons of hidden fees.
2) See the green 125x125 cash crate ad? Lol this person is also is making cash off one of those incentivized programs where you complete offers for cash. These offers are lead generation things (like surveys) which collect your information in order to spam you with... grant offers...
So seriously... can we stop throwing rocks?